This is a powerful extract from the closing address of Nigel Rodley, Chairperson of the UN Human Rights Committee, after the Committee’s questioning of Ireland in Geneva in July.
Then there remain the many social issues that have been raised by colleagues. The Magdalene laundries, the Mother and Baby homes, the child abuse, the symphysiotomy. It is quite a collection, and it is a collection that has carried on beyond any period that it is hard to imagine any State Party tolerating.
And I can’t prevent myself from observing that all of them are not disconnected from the institutional belief system that has predominated in the State Party, and which occasionally has sought to dominate the State Party.
In that sense, the State Delegation wasn’t here when we heard from an NGO that purported, with breathtaking arrogance, certainties about what the meaning of the right to life was for our Covenant or in any other way.
Clearly the Delegation itself has been more open in listening to the concerns of colleagues about the abortion issue. Obviously the issue of the primary right to life of the woman, as an existent human being, has to prevail over that of the unborn child, and I can’t begin to understand by what belief system the priority would be given to the latter rather than the former.
And it is good to see that in 2013 at last that is being clarified. I am sorry that the clarification doesn’t extend to the right to health of the woman. Life without quality of life is not something many of us have to choose between, and to suggest that, regardless of the health consequences of a pregnancy, a person may be doomed to continue with it at a risk of criminal penalties, is difficult to understand, even more so arguably for rape, where the person does not even bear any responsibility and is by the law clearly treated as a vessel and nothing more. Very difficult for this Committee to comprehend.
I do hope that the time will come before too long, preferably before the next review, or the State’s next Periodic Report, that the sort of consultation would take place reflecting modern views in Ireland, that would result in the type of Constitutional change necessary to bring the State’s practices into line with the Covenant.
It is not just a question of Article 6, of course, as Mr Fineman has pointed out, it is also a question of Article 7, and not just for abortion.
I am going to conclude by reading Article 7 of our Covenant: “No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. In particular, no one shall be subjected without his free consent to medical or scientific experimentation.”
The symphy… symphy… (Minister FitzGerald, sitting beside him, helps him to pronounce it) symphysiotomy case – I’m sorry, I’m still not used to the idea, much less the word – clearly falls within that category.
And my final thought, with regard to all of those, is that the State’s response has been one of seeking to find material responses to the needs of the victims. And I don’t want to pour cold water on that. However, there remains the problem of accountability, the accountability for assault…
The issue that remains for the State Party to consider is what is going to do about accountability, about accountability for its own responsibilities, accountability for its failure to monitor what others have been doing, and the accountability of others for committing abuses that the State might well be able to think of as crimes. And the accountability dimension is missing in everything we have heard so far.
So with that, I’m very grateful to the Delegation, it has been a very important discussion, a very open discussion, and very much appreciated by the Committee. We look forward to receiving the responses of the Delegation within the next 48 hours, any written responses, and of course continuing the dialogue through our follow-up procedure until the next report. Thank you again, Minister, thank you again to the Delegation. The meeting is suspended.
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It is quite a collection, and it is a collection that has carried on beyond any period that it is hard to imagine any State Party tolerating. Nice words by Nigel Rodley while Francis Fitzgerald sits to his left and has and is failing to address the abuse issues she has failed to address the mother and baby homes she has failed to give adoptees there rights and these are the questions she has got to be asked by she has and is failing she is now minister for justice another failing position accountability has got to be called for we can no longer tolerate a government who has being influenced by church and supports church abuse and funded the abuse . I would have so loved to have address that meeting and asked why she sits and fails these are the major questions unless they are going to change no point in taking taxpayers money to sit like a dummy or a coward in a battlefield this is there crimes there shame not ours
I agree, Mary.
But as time goes on, the pressure is increasing for the Government to address these issues.
This session of questioning in geneva and the UN report is another step along the way.