Several accredited humanist celebrants of the Humanist Association of Ireland have written a letter to all members of the Association. They are urging members to attend next week’s EGM because they say “the future of the HAI is at stake.” This concern is exaggerated. Whatever happens next week, the HAI will continue to exist. What is actually at stake is how much harm will be done to the decades-long campaign for separation of church and state in Ireland.

Next week’s EGM will be asked to reaffirm the HAI’s commitment to the values of equality and nondiscrimination and the political cause of secularism, to reject the Civil Registration Act as discriminatory and to cease nominating solemnisers under the Act, and to ensure that people who are making personal profits by virtue of being accredited HAI celebrants are not also on the board of the HAI and voting on how the scheme is run.

The humanist celebrants are good people, providing a good service. But they have an unavoidable conflict of interest (mostly emotional, and partly financial) that is clouding their judgment as to the harm they are doing to the cause of Irish secularism. Their letter also undermines the sense of ethical integrity that brought many of us to humanism, and reflects instead the ‘nod and a wink’ Ireland that many of us are trying to get away from.

Here are the assertions made in the ‘Simply Put’ section of the celebrants’ letter, and the actual situation with regard to each of these assertions.

[From the letter] Political Cause: The HAI does not have a political cause. It uses a political process to advance its campaign for equality and social justice.

This is simply not true. The core of understanding this issue is recognising the starting point that the HAI does in fact promote the political cause of separation of church and state, and that this is a valid and good cause to promote. The letter from the celebrants creates the impression that this is not the case. It implies that the HAI has not been involved in promoting a political cause, and that those seeking the EGM are trying the change the status quo. In fact, the opposite is the case.

Firstly, the HAI does promote a political cause. The HAI website states explicitly that the HAI campaigns for “ultimately the total separation of church from state.” The HAI has published a policy document seeking changes in the Irish Constitution, laws and practices of the state. The HAI is a partner in the structured dialogue process between the Irish government and religious and nonreligious philosophical bodies. The HAI supports legislation to permit and regulate abortion.

Secondly, the celebrants’ position is based on the argument that “having a political cause” is not listed in the objects of the company that the HAI is structured as. But the clause in the Civil Registration Act is about the behaviour of the body, not about its objects. The wording is “promote a political cause,” not “have a political cause”. And that phrase has its origin in Dail debates as legal advice that the government had received in order to prevent political lobbying.

Thirdly, it is embarrassing that we are being asked to endorse a statement that not even its proponents could credibly believe: that “using a political process to advance a campaign for equality and social justice” is somehow not promoting a political cause. If a religion or a politician made this argument while opposing the aims of the HAI, we would be more inclined to dismiss it with laughter than to argue against it.

If celebrants want to argue that the HAI should cease promoting the political cause of secularism, in order to be able to solemnise marriages, then by all means they should make that argument. We can discuss the pros and cons, and come to a conclusion. But please do not drag us into another “Irish solution to an Irish problem” debate, where everybody pretends that neither the HAI nor the law actually mean what they say.

[From the letter] Discrimination: The discrimination of not allowing legal Humanist weddings has righted by the passing of this amendment which allows for them.

But is the bill itself is not discriminatory? The bill is more onerous on secular bodies than religious bodies. But it would have been naive to think that it could have been otherwise. The intent was to allow only those bodies deemed suitable to be allowed to solemnise marriages. And we must remember that all we ever looked for was to have legal status for Humanist wedding ceremonies.

Even the Irish Government accepts that this law discriminates on the ground of religion or belief. The Government seeks to justify the discrimination with implausible arguments, none of which are necessary to protect the human right to practice freedom of religion or belief, and none of which reflect a proportionate relationship between the aim that the Government describes (protecting the institution of marriage) and the means it is employing to pursue that aim (discriminating against nonreligious citizens).

You can legally solemnise marriages in Ireland if you are a psychic medium, tarot card reader, public entertainer, ghost whisperer or ghost buster (Ministers of the Spiritualist Union of Ireland); or if you oversee a culture of covering up child sex abuse, or lie to and positively mislead a state inquiry into child sex abuse, or swear victims of child sex abuse to silence (Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church); or if you default on six-figure debts, or fail to file income tax returns (Pastors of the Abundant Life Christian Centre and Victory Christian Church).

Any religious body can nominate its members to legally solemnise marriages in Ireland, but secular groups like Atheist Ireland can not, because the new law discriminates on the ground of religion. Secular bodies must have fifty members, must be five years in existence, must be on the charitable tax exemption list for five years, and must not promote a political cause. This is supposedly to ensure that secular bodies are ‘stable, longstanding and reputable’, while the only criteria for religious bodies is that they meet regularly for common religious worship.

It is not correct to argue that “all [the HAI] ever looked for was to have legal status for Humanist wedding ceremonies.” The HAI has campaigned for this as part of a wider political campaign for a secular state. Being allowed to take part in the discriminatory system, at the cost of legally denying that we promote separation of church and state, is not the context in which we campaigned for legal status for humanist weddings.

[From the letter] Why Not Everyone? An example of an organisation that would not be deemed suitable for solemnising marriages is the IRA. They would be prohibited as they clearly have a political cause.

This is an uninformed argument. The IRA would of course be prohibited from solemnising marriages, but it would not be because they have a political cause.

The IRA would be prohibited from solemnising marriages because the IRA is a criminal organisation that is prohibited from existing, never mind solemnising marriages. The IRA would also be prohibited from solemnising marriages because the Act prohibits: “(f) a body that promotes purposes that are— (i) unlawful, (ii) contrary to public morality, (iii)  contrary to public policy, (iv) in support of terrorism or terrorist activities, whether in the State or outside the State, or (v) for the benefit of an organisation membership of which is unlawful.”

And if the IRA was to respond to this by using the tactics that the HAI is currently using (by arguing that the constitution of the IRA does not specifically say that the IRA promotes terrorism or terrorist activities, therefore the IRA does not promote terrorism and terrorist activities) most HAI members would correctly dismiss such a transparently dishonest semantic manoeuvre.

[From the letter] Democratic System: This amendment was passed by the Senate and the Dail and signed into law by our President; and all of this despite calls from Atheist Ireland to stop it. It was made very clear that, despite some people’s interpretation of it, the clear intent and spirit of the bill was to allow for legal Humanist weddings.

This is an extraordinary argument. Both Atheist Ireland and the HAI consistently campaign against Acts that were passed by the Senate and the Dail and signed into law by our President. Indeed, both Atheist Ireland and the HAI consistently campaign against clauses in the Irish constitution that were passed by the people of Ireland collectively.

It is extraordinary to imply that these injustices are vindicated by the fact that we have not yet succeeded in bringing about these changes. Can you imagine how the HAI would have reacted if anyone had responded to our campaign to remove the religious oaths required of judges and the President, by saying that these requirements were put in place as a result of the democratic system?

[From the letter] Profit and Gain: under the principal act a solemniser can have his/her registration cancelled if he/she “for profit again has carried on a business of solemnising marriages”. Humanist celebrants have for years been assisting couples plan their ceremonies and conducting them on the day. Fees have been charged for this to cover the time and expense involved. No further charge will be made for the solemnising of marriages.

Humanist celebrants are providing a private commercial service, as private individuals, and are making private personal profits. They charge €450 for each humanist wedding they conduct, out of which they contribute €50 to the HAI, pay their travel and other expenses, and keep the remainder as profit.

The HAI does not either set or publish these prices, because it has been legally advised that it should keep an arms-length distance from the celebrants, so that the HAI does not seem to be legally liable for the behaviour of the celebrants.

The celebrants act as self-employed businesspeople, either full-time or part-time. The Director of Ceremonies has told an RTE radio programme that his employment status on his tax return is listed as ‘Humanist Celebrant’. Conducting ceremonies is his full-time source of income. For other HAI celebrants it is a part-time source of income.

The celebrants’ letter is contending that solemnisers will not be carrying on a business of solemnising marriages for profit or gain, on the grounds that they will not be charging anything extra for the solemnising than they had previously been charging for the ceremony.

Like several other of the celebrants’ claims, this is simply playing with words. If a service is being offered and sold for profit or gain, and the essence of that service is that the couples paying for it become legally married as a result of the service, then a business of solemnising marriages is being carried on for profit or gain.

Indeed, the whole thrust of the campaign to become marriage solemnisers is that it confers a legitimacy and a convenience that will make more people want to avail of the new ‘legally married’ service, than currently avail of the non-binding service.

For example, the HAI says that there is currently a waiting list of between five and six hundred couples waiting for humanist solemnisers to be registered in order to have a legal humanist wedding. But why would these couples be waiting, if the solemnising was not part of what they will be paying for?

As an aside, a waiting list of more than five hundred couples represents a collective private income for individual businesspeople of up to €250,000, with effectively no independent oversight (and that is merely the money estimated to be generated by the currently stated waiting list).

Having the HAI as the only secular nominating body for solemnisers would in effect establish a state-approved private business monopoly, generating annual income in the hundreds of thousands of euros, for the provision of legal secular marriages outside of business hours. This is undemocratic and undesirable.

[From the letter] Complaints Procedure: Ivana Bacik has said that those who are not happy with the legislation should talk to their public representatives to get it changed.

Talking to public representatives to get legislation changed is by definition promoting a political cause. No amount of Jesuitical semantics can change that. The HAI should, of course, try to get this legislation changed as part of our ongoing political campaign for, ultimately, total separation of church and state.

[From the letter] Changing Ireland: The growing demand for humanist marriage ceremonies reflects a changing Ireland which the HAI endeavours to serve. Couples enquiring about the legal status of our ceremonies are baffled by the drive by some to frustrate and scupper the long-fought-for legislation. As one bride recently put it: “is this not cutting off your nose to spite your face?”

This entire paragraph would be more appropriately applied to the campaign for secularism in Ireland. The growing demand for separation of church and state reflects the changing Ireland that the HAI should be endeavouring to serve. Longtime members of the HAI, including former and current officers of the Association, are baffled by the drive of some to (unwittingly) frustrate this long-fought-for campaign. It is betraying the political cause of secularism in order to solemnise marriages that would be cutting off our nose to spite our face. Let us make sure that we do not do this.

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Jane Donnelly, David Nash and I met yesterday with Tom Arnold, chairperson, and Richard Holland, secretariat member, of the Irish Constitutional Convention.

This built on our previous discussions with Convention staff. We wanted them to meet with David, the expert on blasphemy law from Oxford Brookes University in the UK who has been in Ireland this week helping us to prepare our submission to the convention.

At our meeting yesterday, we discussed the procedures for Atheist Ireland’s submissions on the question of removing the blasphemy law, which is item 8 on the agenda; and separation of church and state, which we hope to have included under item 9 of the agenda, which allows recommendations on issues other than those set out by the Government.

We were pleased and impressed with the efficiency and fairness of the Convention’s procedures, and we look forward to continuing to work with it to advance the cause of secularism in Ireland.

Draft executive summary of Atheist Ireland submission on blasphemy law

Atheist Ireland is an advocacy group for atheism, reason and ethical secularism. We are participants in the dialogue process between the Government and religious and philosophical bodies. We campaign internationally against the use of blasphemy laws to infringe the human rights of religious minorities and atheists, including hosting an event at the 2012 OSCE human rights meeting in Warsaw. We have opposed the Irish blasphemy law since it was first announced, including by lobbying politicians and international regulatory bodies.

We argue that blasphemy laws generally are bad for the following reasons:

  • They endanger freedom of speech and deny equality
  • They are used to infringe on human rights around the world
  • They have been condemned by reputable Irish and international bodies

We argue that the Irish blasphemy law in particular is bad for the following reasons

  • It reinforces the religious ethos of the 1937 Constitution
  • It brings our parliament and our laws into disrepute
  • Islamic states use it at the UN to promote universal blasphemy laws

Professor Heiner Bielefeldt, United Nations Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Religion, advised us as we prepared this submission: “Of course you are right that the major damage done by this legislation is the international one. I wouldn’t expect any harsh verdicts being handed down in Ireland, but those countries that continue to have an intimidating anti-blasphemy practice like to quote European countries to unmask Western hypocrisy. So I hope things will be moving in the right direction. One can also cite General Comment no. 34 of the Human Rights Committee and the Rabat Plan of Action. Both documents call upon States to move away from criminalizing so called blasphemy.”

The Irish blasphemy law has two components – Article 40.6.1 of the Constitution, which makes blasphemy an offence that is punishable in accordance with law, and Section 36 of the Defamation Act 2009, which defines the offence and makes it punishable. We ask the Constitutional Convention to recommend the following:

  • Remove the offence of blasphemy from Article 40.6.1 of the Constitution. This would enable the Oireachtas to remove the offence of blasphemy from the Defamation Act.
  • Add a clause prohibiting blasphemy laws. This would oblige the Oireachtas to remove the offence of blasphemy from the Defamation Act, and it would also protect the Irish people from future blasphemy laws.
  • Revise ARticle 40.6.1.i generally, closely modelled on Article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights, as recommended by the 1996B review Group.
  • Examine the inter-related impact of the blasphemy clause and other religiously-inspired aspects of the Constitution.
We will soon have the final version of this submission completed, along with our submission on separation of church and state generally for item 9 of the Convention’s agenda.

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Jane Donnelly and I have been working yesterday and today with David Nash from Oxford Brookes University on the Atheist Ireland submission to the Constitutional Convention on blasphemy. We will be meeting the secretary of the Convention tomorrow for feedback on how best to formalise the submission, and we will then finish the final report.

The Irish blasphemy law has two components – Article 40.6.1 of the Constitution, which makes blasphemy an offence that is punishable in accordance with law, and Section 36 of the Defamation Act 2009, which defines the offence and makes it punishable.

We are recommending (a) removing the offence of blasphemy from Article 40.6.1 of the Constitution, which would enable the Oireachtas to remove the offence from the Defamation Act, and (b) including a clause in the Constitution prohibiting blasphemy laws, which would oblige the Oireachtas to remove the offence from the Defamation Act, and would also protect the Irish people from future blasphemy laws.

We are preparing the detail of the submission under these headings:

1. Blasphemy laws generally are bad for the following reasons:

1.1 They endanger freedom of speech and deny equality
1.2 They have been condemned by reputable bodies
1.3 They are used to infringe on human rights around the world

2. The Irish blasphemy law in particular is bad for the following reasons:

2.1 It reinforces the religious ethos of the 1937 Constitution
2.2 It brings our parliament and our laws into disrepute
2.3 It is used by Islamic states to promote universal blasphemy laws

We should have a final draft ready by the end of this week or early next week.

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A response to recent online open letters and emails

by Michael Nugent on June 7, 2013

Thank you for the various open letters and emails regarding the ongoing conflicts between some atheists and skeptics on an interacting range of issues including sexism and harassment, feminism and free speech, personal abuse and bullying, and the impact of these issues on the Empowering Women Through Secularism conference in Dublin on June 29 and 30. I will respond separately from a personal perspective, and as chairperson of Atheist Ireland.

Personal perspective

Firstly, from a personal perspective, I know from experience of much more vicious conflicts than these that it is likely that there are good people on all perceived ‘sides’ who are unfairly hurting other people because they or people close to them have themselves been unfairly hurt, and who are unfairly attributing malign motivations to other good people who in turn are unfairly attributing malign motivations to them.

Since I started facilitating the paused online dialogue on these issues, I have been listening to and considering what people on all perceived ‘sides’ have to say. I have had the pleasure of working with moderators and participants in the online dialogue who have been acting with integrity and reason despite unfair criticism of them from people opposed to dialogue.

I have read a great deal of the online material that shows how various issues have both escalated and became entangled with each other in recent years. And I want to add to my understanding by talking to some of the people involved when they come to Dublin, because I think that face to face discussion can be more useful than online discussion.

Whenever I think I understand enough about the issues to be able to make a useful contribution to the substantive discussions, I will do so. In the meantime, I have chosen to mostly listen and not to publicly respond to speculation about my motives or opinions. That does not mean that I am approaching the issues in an ethical vacuum. I have written elsewhere about the values that I am bringing to these issues:

Atheist Ireland perspective

Secondly, as chairperson of Atheist Ireland, I want to make clear that the Empowering Women Through Secularism Conference is not ‘my’ conference. It is an Atheist Ireland conference, and it is disrespectful to the committee members of Atheist Ireland, and particularly to the conference chairperson Jane Donnelly, to frame it as something which I control personally.

The conference has a structured agenda covering reproductive rights and Irish abortion law, promoting secular values in society, promoting separation of church and state, protecting and promoting human rights, and involvement in politics and the media. Each session will feed into a declaration on empowering women through secularism, which will be adopted on the Sunday.

We invited speakers to contribute to this important agenda, and not on the basis of their involvement in the ongoing conflicts. We won’t be uninviting any speakers, and we won’t allow our ongoing work as an advocacy group to be used as a vehicle for adding to the escalation of the conflicts by unfairly maligning any speakers or any other person who is attending the conference.

We considered having a session during the conference to discuss the ongoing conflicts, and we decided against doing this. The background would require too much explaining for conference attenders, many of whom function mostly in real life and are blissfully unaware that these conflicts even exist. Also, we do not want it to unduly dominate the focus of the conference.

We are asking speakers and participants to focus on the agenda for the conference, and to leave discussion of the conflicts for the many opportunities that exist to discuss them elsewhere. Please be respectful to all of the speakers and to all of the other participants. Please do not attribute malign motivations to any person who is attending the conference.

Ultimately we need to resolve the ongoing conflict issues in some manner, and I have been actively trying to work towards this by facilitating dialogue. But please let’s try to make this particular conference a reminder of how we can work together effectively on important issues despite having differences of opinion on other important issues.

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Why I love football and love the Internet

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A response to Dick Spicer’s open letter to Atheist Ireland about secular politics

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This is a response to Dick Spicer’s open letter to Atheist Ireland last week, followed by documentary evidence that the HAI does in fact promote the political cause of separation of church and state, contrary to the assertions made by the current HAI Board in order to sign up to the Civil Registration Act. I [...]

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My RTE Late Debate on the right to life with Dr Regina McQuillan

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Supreme Court rejects appeal, but says Oireachtas can legislate on right to die

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The Supreme Court has today upheld the High Court ruling that Marie Fleming does not have a constitutional right to be assisted to die by her partner Tom Curran. See full judgment here. But the Supreme Court has also said that it is open to the State, through the Oireachtas, to legislate to deal with [...]

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Right to Die Ireland website launched as Supreme Court to rule today on Marie Fleming appeal

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The Irish Supreme Court is to rule today on Marie Fleming’s appeal to allow her to be assisted in dying peacefully, instead of being forced to live through the final stages of multiple sclerosis. She is appealing against a High Court decision that upheld the current ban on assisted suicide, because the legal right to [...]

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