I’ve discovered that several comments posted in recent days didn’t reach the site because of automated settings in the software, seemingly unrelated to the content of the comments.
I want to publish two of them here, as they are important contributions.
Please read both of these comments in the context that they were written and posted on Monday, and would have appeared as early comments on the post:
Comment from PZ Myers
I’ll make it easy. For the sake of argument, let’s simply stipulate that Pharyngula is far, far worse than anything listed in Michael’s post — just a thoroughly wretched hive of villainy. Every thread is evil compounded.
Now move on. The question isn’t how awful some other site is; it’s not an exercise in comparative wickedness; we’re just going to spit at FtB and flush it away, all to make you happy.
Vacula has to justify THE COMMENTS ABOVE. Not by saying someone else is worse, because that doesn’t change the fact that what’s listed up there is pretty damned vile.
Comment from Phil Giordana
Well, I’m a Slymepit regular, and bar a few comments/commenters there, I think it’s a nice community. They offer help and support more often than not, and talk about very diverse and interesting topics. No moderation (as far as nothing posted could get the forum in trouble with the Law) is a very good way of pushing skepticism.
Michael’s list is a very thorough compilation of jokes, in-jokes, stupid comments and more jokes. These are the comments I usualy skip. Morally justifiable? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But really, just look at #36, and I quote:
“Muhahaha the evil spreads. Soon my pretties, soon we shall have the whole atheist movement chanting our chant of mysoginist victory ” cunt, cunt cunt!” They shall chant. “Rape to the [named person]” will be our warcry!”
Should I give any moral judgment on such a quote? Should I, in fact, take it seriously at all? Then I’d be a dumb dick for doing so. Internet humour, for what it is, is still internet humour. Nothing you can do about it.
And before I get accused of being a vile offender WRT gendered slurs, here is what my (now removed but maybe coming up again) pharyngula wiki page said:
You will please note that all these instances were made in jest (except the “business” comment, but it turned out to be untrue. I think I got more sales from this mess. Thanks all). Moreover, in a language I don’t use on a daily basis. I could do the same with Ophelia Benson or a bunch of other FTB commenters. You know, the ones finishing their comment with “but bitches ain’t shit, right?”.
So, morally unjustifiable? All and none of them.