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		<title>By: european atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-29062</link>
		<dc:creator>european atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under Rumsfeld, Pentagon published Bible verses on top-secret intel reports.
In a lengthy article on Donald Rumsfeld’s rocky tenure as Defense Secretary, GQ published never-before-seen cover sheets from top-secret intelligence briefings produced by Rumsfeld’s Pentagon. Starting in the days surrounding the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the cover sheets featured inspirational Bible verses printed over military images, [...]
The translated Bibles appear to be the New Testament. According to Al Jazeera, US soldiers &quot;had them specially printed and shipped to Afghanistan.&quot; On the tape, one soldier describes how his church in the US helped raise money for the bibles. Al Jazeera reports that &quot;What these soldiers have been doing may well be in direct violation of the US Constitution, their professional codes and the regulations in place for all forces in Afghanistan.&quot; The US military officially forbids &quot;proselytising of any religion, faith or practice.&quot; But, as Al Jazeera reports:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under Rumsfeld, Pentagon published Bible verses on top-secret intel reports.<br />
In a lengthy article on Donald Rumsfeld’s rocky tenure as Defense Secretary, GQ published never-before-seen cover sheets from top-secret intelligence briefings produced by Rumsfeld’s Pentagon. Starting in the days surrounding the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the cover sheets featured inspirational Bible verses printed over military images, [...]<br />
The translated Bibles appear to be the New Testament. According to Al Jazeera, US soldiers &#8220;had them specially printed and shipped to Afghanistan.&#8221; On the tape, one soldier describes how his church in the US helped raise money for the bibles. Al Jazeera reports that &#8220;What these soldiers have been doing may well be in direct violation of the US Constitution, their professional codes and the regulations in place for all forces in Afghanistan.&#8221; The US military officially forbids &#8220;proselytising of any religion, faith or practice.&#8221; But, as Al Jazeera reports:</p>
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		<title>By: european atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-27539</link>
		<dc:creator>european atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genocide in the Bible!!!
  1. Jehova kills the king of Israel and helps Abijah kill 500,000 
     Israelites.
  2. An &quot;angel of the Lord&quot; kills 185,000 men while they sleep.
  3. God-Jehova killed 70,000 mean
  4. David kills 7000 men in chariots and 40,000 footmen.
  5. Abishai killed 300 men with his spear. 11:20
  6. The chief of David&#039;s captains killed with his own spear 800  
     guys at one time. 23:
  7. God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites hands, and 100,000
     were killed in one day. Of those that
      escaped, 27,000 were crushed by a falling wall. 20:28-30
  8. 42,000 men are killed because someone mispronounces 
     &quot;shibboleth.&quot; 12:6
  9. Elijah kills 450 prophets of Baal. 18:22,
 10. God tells them to go to battle again and another 18,000 are
     killed. 20:23, 25
 11. God helps the Israelites kill 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35
 12. God kills 50,070 men for looking into the ark.
 13. 14,700 people. Crime - complaining about the previous two. 
     Method of execution - plague. Num.16:49.
       
 14. Chapters 17-19 (17-18-19) tells us that David killed 22,000
     Syrians and that Abishai killed 18,000 Edomites. No one
     expresses shame at such slaughters.
 15. Moses commands the murder of approximately 100,000 young males
     and, roughly, 68,000 helpless women.
 16. God helps the Israelites kill 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35
 17. God tells them to go to battle again and another 18,000 are 
     killed. 20:23, 25
 19. God tells the Israelites to send the tribe of Judah into battle
     and 22,000 men were killed by the Benjamites. 20:18, 21
       
 20. Samson, with God&#039;s help, kills himself and 3000 Philistine men
     and women by causing a roof to collapse, setting an example for
     Bible-based terrorism.   16:27-30
 21. God &quot;delivers&quot; more folks into the hands of his chosen people.
     &quot;And they slew of Moab ... about 10,000 men ... and their
     escaped not a man.&quot; 3:28-29
 22. Paul claims that God killed 23,000 in a plague for &quot;committing
     whoredom with the daughters of Moab 10:8
 23. Pekah killed 120,000 people in one day and enslaves 200,000 
     women and children &quot;because they had forsaken the Lord God of 
     their fathers.&quot; 28:6, 8
 24. Amaziah (who &quot;did that which was right in the sight of the
     Lord&quot;) killed 10,000 people; another 10,000 he left alive to   
     throw off a cliff &quot;that they all were broken in pieces.&quot; 25:1-2,
     11-12
 25. God offers David a choice of punishments for having conducted
     the census: 1) seven years of famine (1 Chr.21:1 says three 
     years), 2) three months fleeing from enemies, or 3) three days 
     of pestilence. David can&#039;t decide, so God chooses for him and 
     sends a pestilence, killing 70,000 men (and probably around 
     200,000 women and children). 24:13
26. Shamgar kills 600 Philistines with an ox goad. Praise God. 3:31</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genocide in the Bible!!!<br />
  1. Jehova kills the king of Israel and helps Abijah kill 500,000<br />
     Israelites.<br />
  2. An &#8220;angel of the Lord&#8221; kills 185,000 men while they sleep.<br />
  3. God-Jehova killed 70,000 mean<br />
  4. David kills 7000 men in chariots and 40,000 footmen.<br />
  5. Abishai killed 300 men with his spear. 11:20<br />
  6. The chief of David&#8217;s captains killed with his own spear 800<br />
     guys at one time. 23:<br />
  7. God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites hands, and 100,000<br />
     were killed in one day. Of those that<br />
      escaped, 27,000 were crushed by a falling wall. 20:28-30<br />
  8. 42,000 men are killed because someone mispronounces<br />
     &#8220;shibboleth.&#8221; 12:6<br />
  9. Elijah kills 450 prophets of Baal. 18:22,<br />
 10. God tells them to go to battle again and another 18,000 are<br />
     killed. 20:23, 25<br />
 11. God helps the Israelites kill 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35<br />
 12. God kills 50,070 men for looking into the ark.<br />
 13. 14,700 people. Crime &#8211; complaining about the previous two.<br />
     Method of execution &#8211; plague. Num.16:49.</p>
<p> 14. Chapters 17-19 (17-18-19) tells us that David killed 22,000<br />
     Syrians and that Abishai killed 18,000 Edomites. No one<br />
     expresses shame at such slaughters.<br />
 15. Moses commands the murder of approximately 100,000 young males<br />
     and, roughly, 68,000 helpless women.<br />
 16. God helps the Israelites kill 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35<br />
 17. God tells them to go to battle again and another 18,000 are<br />
     killed. 20:23, 25<br />
 19. God tells the Israelites to send the tribe of Judah into battle<br />
     and 22,000 men were killed by the Benjamites. 20:18, 21</p>
<p> 20. Samson, with God&#8217;s help, kills himself and 3000 Philistine men<br />
     and women by causing a roof to collapse, setting an example for<br />
     Bible-based terrorism.   16:27-30<br />
 21. God &#8220;delivers&#8221; more folks into the hands of his chosen people.<br />
     &#8220;And they slew of Moab &#8230; about 10,000 men &#8230; and their<br />
     escaped not a man.&#8221; 3:28-29<br />
 22. Paul claims that God killed 23,000 in a plague for &#8220;committing<br />
     whoredom with the daughters of Moab 10:8<br />
 23. Pekah killed 120,000 people in one day and enslaves 200,000<br />
     women and children &#8220;because they had forsaken the Lord God of<br />
     their fathers.&#8221; 28:6, 8<br />
 24. Amaziah (who &#8220;did that which was right in the sight of the<br />
     Lord&#8221;) killed 10,000 people; another 10,000 he left alive to<br />
     throw off a cliff &#8220;that they all were broken in pieces.&#8221; 25:1-2,<br />
     11-12<br />
 25. God offers David a choice of punishments for having conducted<br />
     the census: 1) seven years of famine (1 Chr.21:1 says three<br />
     years), 2) three months fleeing from enemies, or 3) three days<br />
     of pestilence. David can&#8217;t decide, so God chooses for him and<br />
     sends a pestilence, killing 70,000 men (and probably around<br />
     200,000 women and children). 24:13<br />
26. Shamgar kills 600 Philistines with an ox goad. Praise God. 3:31</p>
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		<title>By: european atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-27523</link>
		<dc:creator>european atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adolf Hitler was a Catholic Monstrum. Hitler and Pop Pacelli XII.
 1. Catholic Church and Adolf Hitler!!!
 2. Catholic Church and bloody Inquisition.
 3. Christian Colonys and Missions: Di 150.000.000 people!
 4. Catholic and Evangelical Churchs killing 150.000.000 people
    round the World in Name of Jesus!!!
 5. Catholic Church and Genocide!
 6. Catholic Church and Holocaust!
 7. Catholic criminal Bible!
 8. Catholic criminal Story!
 9. Christian U.S. C.I.A. killing over 100.000.000 people round the
    World!!!
10. C.I.A. - Bible!
11. Catholic and Evangelical Soldiers in Iraqwar and Agh.

    Atheist 100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adolf Hitler was a Catholic Monstrum. Hitler and Pop Pacelli XII.<br />
 1. Catholic Church and Adolf Hitler!!!<br />
 2. Catholic Church and bloody Inquisition.<br />
 3. Christian Colonys and Missions: Di 150.000.000 people!<br />
 4. Catholic and Evangelical Churchs killing 150.000.000 people<br />
    round the World in Name of Jesus!!!<br />
 5. Catholic Church and Genocide!<br />
 6. Catholic Church and Holocaust!<br />
 7. Catholic criminal Bible!<br />
 8. Catholic criminal Story!<br />
 9. Christian U.S. C.I.A. killing over 100.000.000 people round the<br />
    World!!!<br />
10. C.I.A. &#8211; Bible!<br />
11. Catholic and Evangelical Soldiers in Iraqwar and Agh.</p>
<p>    Atheist 100%</p>
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		<title>By: european atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-27518</link>
		<dc:creator>european atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blasphemy law is silly, dangerous and unjust???

Catholic Inquisition is more dangerous, with 9.000.000 Womans, which
di on the stakes!!! Catholic Church has a bloody degree in Name of
Jesus! Lukas.19:27. or Joh.15:5-6. Holocaust in the New Testament!
Catholic Church with Adolf Hitler, Pedophily in catholic Church?
Why we do not talking about Pedophilie by catholic Prist, or in
the Bible? E 25.000 for Pedophilie in catholich Church???

Catholic Churchs Missionars killing over 100.000.000 Indians round the
World, (America, South America) Afrikans, Jews, Serbians- (Jasenovac).
E 25.000 for Slavery in the Bible, Hate, Intoleranc, Genocide???
Catholic Church is a Nazi-Church today to!!!

Catholic Church is a 100% Criminal Church!!!
Inquisition, 1.000 Years long! This is Blasphemy???
For the Truth, to say, we must pay 25.000 Euro???

Giordano Bruno di, because he said something about Atom. Catholic
Church hate word: Atom. Atom and &quot;Jesus&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blasphemy law is silly, dangerous and unjust???</p>
<p>Catholic Inquisition is more dangerous, with 9.000.000 Womans, which<br />
di on the stakes!!! Catholic Church has a bloody degree in Name of<br />
Jesus! Lukas.19:27. or Joh.15:5-6. Holocaust in the New Testament!<br />
Catholic Church with Adolf Hitler, Pedophily in catholic Church?<br />
Why we do not talking about Pedophilie by catholic Prist, or in<br />
the Bible? E 25.000 for Pedophilie in catholich Church???</p>
<p>Catholic Churchs Missionars killing over 100.000.000 Indians round the<br />
World, (America, South America) Afrikans, Jews, Serbians- (Jasenovac).<br />
E 25.000 for Slavery in the Bible, Hate, Intoleranc, Genocide???<br />
Catholic Church is a Nazi-Church today to!!!</p>
<p>Catholic Church is a 100% Criminal Church!!!<br />
Inquisition, 1.000 Years long! This is Blasphemy???<br />
For the Truth, to say, we must pay 25.000 Euro???</p>
<p>Giordano Bruno di, because he said something about Atom. Catholic<br />
Church hate word: Atom. Atom and &#8220;Jesus&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: european atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-27415</link>
		<dc:creator>european atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criminals of the Bible!!!
   1. Adolf Hitlers Bible
   2. Adolf Eichmanns Bible
   3. Nazi-Bible
   4. Die Bibel im Dritten Reich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criminals of the Bible!!!<br />
   1. Adolf Hitlers Bible<br />
   2. Adolf Eichmanns Bible<br />
   3. Nazi-Bible<br />
   4. Die Bibel im Dritten Reich!</p>
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		<title>By: european atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-27414</link>
		<dc:creator>european atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Military Bible!!!
    1. War
    2. Genocide+Ginocide
    3. Racism
    4. Antisemitism
    5. Intoleranc
    6. Hate
    7. Militarism+Monotheism+Cionism+Theokratism+Phallophilism
    8. Pedophilie
    9. Cannibalism
   10. Superstition
   11. Archaism
   12. Holy Country (Israel+Racism+Apartheid+Gazaghetto)
   13. Inquisition: Ex.22:17. 9.000.000 Witches di!
   14. Martin Luther about Ex.22:17. (Kill a Witsches)
   15. Adolf Hitlers Bible
   16. Nazi-Bible
   17. Adolf Eichmanns Bible
   18. Holy Bible in Nazi-Propagand-(Evangelium im Dritten Reich)
   19. Military Bible
   20. Soldiers Bible
   21. Familiy Bible
   22. Childrens Bible
   23. Vietnam Bible
   24. Iraqwar Bible
   25. Afghanistans Bible
   26. Amityfoundationsbible: Made in China (Nanking)
   27. S.O.C.O.M.-Soldiers for Christ
   28. Jesus Special Force in Iraqwar
   29. S.O.C.O.M.-Wargames for Internetcaffes and Internet!!!
   30. S.O.C.O.M.-Bible
   31. AIPAC-Bible
   32. C.I.A. - Bible
   33. NeoCon-Bible
   34. W.A.S.P.-Bible (Evangelical Soldiers in Iraqwar and Afgh.
   35. N.A.T.O.- Bible
   36. Barack Obamas Bible&amp;Waragenda
   37. Desmond Tutus Bible
   38. Joseph Ratzingers Bible
   39. Martin Luthers King Bible: (Racism and Slavery)
   40. Martin Luthers Bible

       Atheist 100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Military Bible!!!<br />
    1. War<br />
    2. Genocide+Ginocide<br />
    3. Racism<br />
    4. Antisemitism<br />
    5. Intoleranc<br />
    6. Hate<br />
    7. Militarism+Monotheism+Cionism+Theokratism+Phallophilism<br />
    8. Pedophilie<br />
    9. Cannibalism<br />
   10. Superstition<br />
   11. Archaism<br />
   12. Holy Country (Israel+Racism+Apartheid+Gazaghetto)<br />
   13. Inquisition: Ex.22:17. 9.000.000 Witches di!<br />
   14. Martin Luther about Ex.22:17. (Kill a Witsches)<br />
   15. Adolf Hitlers Bible<br />
   16. Nazi-Bible<br />
   17. Adolf Eichmanns Bible<br />
   18. Holy Bible in Nazi-Propagand-(Evangelium im Dritten Reich)<br />
   19. Military Bible<br />
   20. Soldiers Bible<br />
   21. Familiy Bible<br />
   22. Childrens Bible<br />
   23. Vietnam Bible<br />
   24. Iraqwar Bible<br />
   25. Afghanistans Bible<br />
   26. Amityfoundationsbible: Made in China (Nanking)<br />
   27. S.O.C.O.M.-Soldiers for Christ<br />
   28. Jesus Special Force in Iraqwar<br />
   29. S.O.C.O.M.-Wargames for Internetcaffes and Internet!!!<br />
   30. S.O.C.O.M.-Bible<br />
   31. AIPAC-Bible<br />
   32. C.I.A. &#8211; Bible<br />
   33. NeoCon-Bible<br />
   34. W.A.S.P.-Bible (Evangelical Soldiers in Iraqwar and Afgh.<br />
   35. N.A.T.O.- Bible<br />
   36. Barack Obamas Bible&amp;Waragenda<br />
   37. Desmond Tutus Bible<br />
   38. Joseph Ratzingers Bible<br />
   39. Martin Luthers King Bible: (Racism and Slavery)<br />
   40. Martin Luthers Bible</p>
<p>       Atheist 100%</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-13428</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of your two main concerns happiness and atheism.
I prefer the description secular humanist as in my mind it is more positive.  I too am fascinated by both of your topics.  I would add the concepts of &quot;human nature&quot; and &quot;political associations&quot; and how a group of &quot;human natures&quot; can operate as a society.

They had that bus campaign here in Spain too in Barcelona and Madrid - raised a few eyebrows but Spain seems to have been able the god myth much easier than us Irish.

Also love the idea of taking god out of the Constitution.  How about starting with the Angelus off RTE - the only time it isn&#039;t played is 12 noon on Sundays.  Just one question from your other site What do you mean &quot;by Church of Ireland (including protestant)?&quot;  I&#039;ve always understood protestant to include Church of ireland, presbyterian, methodist etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of your two main concerns happiness and atheism.<br />
I prefer the description secular humanist as in my mind it is more positive.  I too am fascinated by both of your topics.  I would add the concepts of &#8220;human nature&#8221; and &#8220;political associations&#8221; and how a group of &#8220;human natures&#8221; can operate as a society.</p>
<p>They had that bus campaign here in Spain too in Barcelona and Madrid &#8211; raised a few eyebrows but Spain seems to have been able the god myth much easier than us Irish.</p>
<p>Also love the idea of taking god out of the Constitution.  How about starting with the Angelus off RTE &#8211; the only time it isn&#8217;t played is 12 noon on Sundays.  Just one question from your other site What do you mean &#8220;by Church of Ireland (including protestant)?&#8221;  I&#8217;ve always understood protestant to include Church of ireland, presbyterian, methodist etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nugent</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-9684</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nugent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, Paddy. Yes, it will take a wider group. I think it is important that atheists are explicitly represented within that group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, Paddy. Yes, it will take a wider group. I think it is important that atheists are explicitly represented within that group.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy Crean</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelnugent.com/2009/01/16/atheist-ireland-radio-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-9632</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy Crean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff, Michael.

I enjoyed the interview. The questions were good and and you answered them in your usual clear-thinking and concise way.
What I liked particularly was the manner in which you kept your remarks positive and remained respectful of the position of those who will, of course, have a different world-view (I hasten to add that I am not included).

I wish you success with regard to a secular Constitution. It&#039;s going to be a lot tougher than the campaign for the amendment of Articles 2 and 3 (of which you know a thing or two!).

Still, on the 5th January 1973, the 5th Amendment, which removed from the Constitution the special position of the Catholic Church and regognised other named religious denominations, was signed. So nothing is impossible (with God?)

Why not set the 40th Anniversary of the 5th Amendment, 05/01/&#039;13 as the date by which to accomplish our secular Irish Constitution. 

However, I don&#039;t think Atheism Ireland would be the appropriate vehicle for this project. A more broadbased organisation would be required. How about Another Consensus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff, Michael.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the interview. The questions were good and and you answered them in your usual clear-thinking and concise way.<br />
What I liked particularly was the manner in which you kept your remarks positive and remained respectful of the position of those who will, of course, have a different world-view (I hasten to add that I am not included).</p>
<p>I wish you success with regard to a secular Constitution. It&#8217;s going to be a lot tougher than the campaign for the amendment of Articles 2 and 3 (of which you know a thing or two!).</p>
<p>Still, on the 5th January 1973, the 5th Amendment, which removed from the Constitution the special position of the Catholic Church and regognised other named religious denominations, was signed. So nothing is impossible (with God?)</p>
<p>Why not set the 40th Anniversary of the 5th Amendment, 05/01/&#8217;13 as the date by which to accomplish our secular Irish Constitution. </p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think Atheism Ireland would be the appropriate vehicle for this project. A more broadbased organisation would be required. How about Another Consensus?</p>
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